Geothermal Heating Systems for Homes
Domestic Geothermal heating systems can be a great way to heat a home, replace a furnace, and are labeled as money savers. Question is, are they worth the hype? Here's a quick view first of how they operate.
从6米到10米的深度开始,地球的温度就不再受地表温度变化的影响,而是相对稳定地保持在8到10摄氏度左右。所以地热加热和冷却的基本原理是利用地球内部的温度来平衡北美和加拿大急剧变化的地表温度。
With the use of heat pumps, geothermal heating and cooling systems extract heat energy and transfer it into buildings, saving approximately 50 to 60% on heating and cooling costs, depending on the fuel being compared to.
在夏季的几个月里,地热冷却的功能与标准的空调类似,只是热量不是简单地喷射到外面的空气中,而是沉积在地下深处以备将来使用。其结果是无内疚感的空调,因为在夏季提取的热量实际上用于温暖地下深处的地球,这些热量将在冬季提高地源热泵的效率。
Geothermal home heating systems:
Vertical closed-loop geothermal systemshave a sealed U-shaped pipe of high density polyethylene that carries a heat transfer fluid (usually a water / methanol mix) in a continuously circulating loop allowing an exchange of heat by conduction. As the liquid returns to the surface, either heated or cooled depending on the season, the additional or reduced amount of heat in the water is used to condition the home. The required depth for this system is generally 300 feet or more, and the cost is calculated by the foot. Through the nose, but by the foot.
Horizontal closed-loop geothermal systemsfunction in the same manner as vertical systems, except that pipes are run back and forth 6 to 10 feet underground. Installation involves excavating trenches (at least 300 feet of them), rather than digging a well.
Horizontal ground source heat pump systems can be cheaper to install but require a significant amount of space, and it does some pretty intense damage to any ecosystems that lay in its intended path. For a given length of pipe, horizontal loop systems are a bit less efficient than vertical loop systems, as they can be more easily affected by surface temperatures. The other downside is that if or when there's a leak in the circuit, with a horizontal mat or grid style system the whole garden area has to be dug up again in search of a tiny leak that is losing the system pressure.
Open-loop geothermal systemsuse ground water pumped directly from a supply well (75 to 100 feet deep) in order to draw and inject heat. Water is pumped out of the first well, and after the heat exchange is carried out, it gets injected into the second well.
Open-loop systems have a very high thermal efficiency and installation can be up to 50% less expensive than vertical closed loop systems. However, conditions necessary for the proper function of these systems are rarely found in urban areas, as they require an abundant source of ground water and a high water table.
Will geothermal heating save me money?
That truly depends on the size of the project to heat.No geothermal system is cheap to install, and because it offers only a reduction in consumption, the return on investment is really only viable for larger buildings. For this reason geothermal is more suited to commercial or multi-unit residential projects of substantial size.
A home would have to be quite large, and somewhat poorly-insulated to actually make it pay for itself in a reasonable time frame. In many cases, particularly with moderately-sized new homes being built, that large of a financial investment towards energy efficiency could offer much greater returns if put towards heat retention instead -better windows, additionalhome insulationin new build,insulating existing walls from the outside during a house renovation, or better用于空气密封的胶带和薄膜, etc.
Ball park pricing for a geothermal system: For an averaged size home (2000 sq. ft.) a GSHP will easily cost $30,000 to have installed, and that is in exchange for a monthly saving of about 50% on the heating bill. So payback for the average single family home is simply too far away to make this a financially competitive option with all but the highest consuming homes - and even then only when the boiler or furnace has failed and needs replacement.
That same investment of $25,000 (or perhaps less) ina better thermal envelope可能会轻松减少70%或80%的取暖费,甚至更多。Geothermal energy is an excellent global technology, but poorly insulated single family homes will get far more bang for the buck if the money is put into insulation instead, or balanced between energy saving renovations andhigh efficiency heat pumpsespecially if choosing fromthe best heat pumps in our comparison guide.
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我读过一篇文章,仍然认为地热供暖系统非常适合商业应用。如果你想给普通的私人住宅提供一些温暖,考虑隔热是更有利可图的。然而,当成本不是一个重要的选择时,正确安装住宅地热供暖系统是一个可靠的解决方案,它将使你摆脱许多标准的麻烦。我在家里使用了一个系统,我很高兴!如果你认为你口袋里有足够的钱——想想吧。
I'm a little confused by your statement that geothermal is not a reasonable alternative for residential use, except in multi-residential or larger, and/or poorly insulated (older) homes. If we need to shift to carbon neutral housing stock, which I understand is one objective of Ontario's new Climate Action Plan (www.ontario.ca/page/climate...), do we simply accept that phasing out natural gas and switching to electricity for heating is our only reasonable alternative? I'm also a little dismayed with the statement that you can "possibly even eliminate [your heating costs] all together" by investing more in insulation. Is a passive house retrofit (or even new construction) really less expensive than a residential geothermal system? Also, once you've made the investment in geothermal heating and cooling, shouldn't your heating / cooling costs be eliminated (except for the cost of running the pumps) instead of reduced by 50% as you've suggested? I agree completely that the first step should be to insulate your home as much as is reasonable - but there are limits to how much insulating factor you can get in the walls and roof of a standard house, especially if you are retrofitting. Shouldn't we be looking at the longer term impacts of the alternatives considered? I'd welcome more discussion about this.
From an economic standpoint it is not reasonable. Dollars spent to dollars returned.
你需要自己确定安装地热系统的钱是否物有所值。每个人对此的看法都略有不同。有些人只把价值放在它说他们的钱,而其他人有很多钱可能会把更多的价值在“绿色”方面。
Cannot fairly say either veiw is less relavent, but if you dont have the cash its pretty much imposible to spend it!
I personally would like to see (if we are to continue with the carbon tax) investments made into developing better geo thermal technology. In ways of affordability, long term stability, and minimal enviromental impact.
I've been thinking about the phasing out of using fossil fuel, on and off for some time now. The only thing i'm certain of at this point is electricity is not the answer.
What about if you purchase a home with geothermal system and plan on increasing the size of the home? Can you "add" on to the system per se?
The challenge with geothermal heating and cooling is not he technology, it's the cost of giving away the energy for free. If individual home owners had to build gas pipelines from their homes to the source of the gas - which they would then get for free - it would be too expensive as well.
Governments need to developed policies to encourage companies to build district based geothermal systems. This will require putting a price on the geothermal energy - like we do with fossil fuels - that homeowners pay for as the use it. Homeowners will then update their furnaces and air conditioners to heat exchanges when replacing them. The cost to the homeowners for switching energy sources will be similar to replacing their current systems, but significantly less than building an entire geothermal systems from scratch.
This type of approach will encourage businesses to invest in building the carbon friendly infrastructure needed to achieve the carbon reduction targets our government is calling for.
肯定是在撞一个旧柱子,但你已经把它钉在了头上,保罗。你所描述的系统已经在英国使用了一段时间了。贯穿全镇的市政供暖系统由房主从主要供暖系统中分离出来。
I think it could really work here as well.
NO? not really if someone build a new home go for it. because save on furnace and AC. if the furnace is old and needs to be replace maybe is a good time to do the change.
i also would put solar panels on the roof for extra heat.
Seems every alternate method of energy consumption has its plus and minus.
Obviously with solar panels the worst thaight is the need to store in extremely eco unfreindly batteries.
我目前试图找到准确的数据,在tue计算的积极VRS负面影响不同的能源来源。到目前为止,我还没有找到不带偏见的资料。
我在8年前安装了地热设备,有4100平方英尺的房子,一楼天花板12英尺,二楼天花板10英尺,所以有很大的取暖或制冷空间。通过政府返点,它在大约5年内收回了石油成本。
The problem arose with McGuinty and Wynne. I did not predict the huge increase in the cost of electricity to run the condensers. Now with the 25% drop in the cost of electricity and the new carbon taxes on oil and natural gas, the equation has flipped again.
If the government of Ontario stops screwing up our electricity system,then geothermal is a great idea, and really pays off. Being at the mercy of an incompetent bureaucracy is not a good thing. You cannot plan for what they will do next.
由于Hydro One再次提高了它的减排率,原来25%的减排率现在变成了17%。保证这些利率将再次上升,安大略的电力公用事业在养老金方面有巨大的遗留成本。我同意与无能的官僚机构打交道是***的痛苦。我认为地热是个好主意,但是如果你所在的安大略地区有天然气的话,那么天然气是最好的选择。
Don't think you will see natural gas phased out in Ontario . Natural gas is a very clean burning fuel . Plus the voters would raise a huge stink .
我最近的账单实际上低了32%我住在一个中等密度的区域,那里的分布率非常高。这一下降显著,随着8%的PST逆转和实际使用量的价格下降,我得到了这个更大的下降。分配是我储蓄更多的主要原因。韦恩必须被撤职,使这些削减永久生效。消除这些多余的绿色能源和人力成本是可能的。地热能现在为我节省了安装时的费用。
Electricity is also needed for the heat exchange condensers as well as the pumps. That's where the biggest usage is. Bottom line it has to pay for itself in a reasonable time frame. With the total cost of electricity in 2016 being as high as it was and with future increases for more planned wind turbine farms and fat staffing costs, the calculation did not work. In fact keeping with oil or gas would save you money, or better still burning wood.
Now with Wynne's re election re configuring of hydro rates and cancellation of billions in future wind farms subsidies and reduction in the solar subsidy etc. etc., coupled with carbon taxes on heating oil and natural gas, the equation is now viable again, so long as this woman does not get re elected and the rates begin to climb again.
Right and natural gas is a lot cheaper than electric baseboard heating. Cost is the key to any heating decision, both the payback period on the installation cost and the monthly operating cost. Cost trumps touchy feely green sentiments at the end of the day. If we want more green electrical and geothermal heating, get the cost of electricity down.
I just noted that the Canadian distributor of my geothermal equipment closed up as did the installation company. Why - no business!
Bought a house 27 years ago . The developer got into an argument with the gas company . The house was electric heat and water . Within a year of owning the house the gas company ran gas lines in the neighbourhood .The deal was if you put in a gas water heater they would do the house hookup lines free . Did that ,then converted the house to gas heat ,and later gas stove /oven . Really good decision . Electric heat is a dry heat and a lousy way to heat a home . What pisses me off is we converted the house to led lighting and the electric bill keeps increasing . Let's face it the whole Ontario electrical system is a sham .Enormous salaries to management and staff .Pension plans and benefits that are an insult to average ratepayers .
嗯,太阳能在安大略的居民中已经消失了,因为随着省为你的系统产生的电力支付的费率下降,谁会在他们的屋顶上安装一个40,000美元的太阳能系统呢?事实上,安大略从来就不需要太阳能或风力涡轮机。安大略省生产的电力超过了它的需求。如果安大略省未来需要更多的电力,明智的做法是从魁北克水电和马尼托巴电力公司获得电力。电力是水力发电,所以是“绿色”能源,而且成本会便宜得多,因为这些省份已经修建了基础设施。安大略的基础设施就在那里,基本上就是电线。如果能从其他省份获得更便宜的电力,安大略就不必自己生产电力。The mindset needs to change !
在网上和制造商那里到处寻找案例研究。如果这项技术这么好,实际上这么高效,那么应该有大量的数据来支持这个行业。事实上,它并没有发送一个真正的消息,关于住宅安装缺乏商业应用程序。我正在考虑在冬季结冰的河流上安装一个闭环系统的可能性,因为正如我读到的那样,如果我钻经过认证的井,含水层的温度将逐年下降,因为我几乎一直在提取过热。评论建议吗?
Hi Don,
Your posts were intriguing. We are building a house in Burlington where
天然气管线不可用(也无法预测何时可用)
Our house is approximately 3800 sq ft with 10ft ceiling on ground floor and unfinished basement, and 9ft second floor - so not too far off from your size. Would you say a closed loop horizontal system is sufficient to heat a home like ours or would we also need propane heating?
Any advice?
在施工阶段,你必须决定是否采用气体强制空气系统。这是里诺还是新开发的?你的邻居都用什么热源?如果新建筑和新开发有多少人需要天然气?如果很多人都想要天然气,而你们组成一个致力于天然气开发的组织,这可能会成为一种杠杆。那就打电话给煤气公司。如果是新建筑,你的隔热效果可能会很好。热泵,空气到热交换器能行吗?这样夏天也能开空调了。你必须和供暖承包商谈谈,计算一下什么适合你的新家。如果气体来,那么它将是明智的管道系统,现在。 Just a tip I just replaced my furnace .Costco was the best deal 70,000 BTU 2 stage ,96% efficient they beat the other estimates by $700 to $1000. plus the unit they put in was better and a better warranty . Costco partners with a local reputable dealer . Plus check the provincial rebates ,you may qualify for a rebate for an energy efficient unit /system . For me it was $3445.00 with a $300.00 Costco rebate ,$250.00 provincial rebate and 2% rebate on my Costco credit card . Good luck .
How much to instal the geothermal unit and what is the house sq.footage? How much of a provincial rebate ?
I am cautiosly looking at going with geo (heating/cooling) and pv (electrical).
I have a 2000 sqft, two story, attached garage home in Edmonton. The house was built in 2004 - it's not too old but probably not very efficient either. My plan is a follows:
-从家庭能源审计开始,包括风机测试。我希望我可以快速获得一些收益,看看阁楼,地下室和空气密封/绝缘它。
- I am assuming I could reduce my heating/cooling requirements cost-effectively by about 25% - and a lot of it could by DIY (~$5,000);
- I am also assuming that air sealing and insulating the Center of the house to get to a low ACH/high insulation value (walls, windows) would be cost prohibitive, work intensive and (in some areas) way beyond my DIY skills (~$25-$100K);
- Got a rough estimate to put in geo to replace my heating/cooling needs (no AC right now) for about $35K. I hope that by addressing some air tightness and heat losses, I might be able to lower this cost even further (4 ton system instead of 5 ton)? My furnace is 14 years old and may need replacement within the next 10 years at a cost of $3,000-$5,000 so part of investment into geo offsets that;
- Got a rough estimate on PV installation to offset my electricity consumption at about $15K. I need to replace the roof first which could potentially decrease PV installation costs if I were to move some vents around to better position the panels and install a compatible racking system at the same time.
So being the optimist that I am, here is the cost structure:
- Attic/Basement air-sealing/insulation - $5K
- Geo - $30K (lower than the estimated $35K due to better air-tightness of the attic and basement)
- Roof - $5K (a lot of DIY)
- PV - $10K (including DIY (panel racking) when working on the roof)
因此,总共5万美元,我就可以不用天然气,自己发电(每年净为零)。因此,1万美元的pv的回收期约为7年,预计保修寿命为25年。3万美元的投资回收期约为20年,预计寿命超过50年。我没有计算水电费和维护费用的变化。考虑到联邦政府承诺的4万美元零利率,10年房屋能效改善贷款,我可以在10年内实现净零二氧化碳(是的,5万美元的总成本和联邦贷款40美元之间仍有1万美元的差距)。而且,我未来10年的贷款还款额将比我现在的水电费高出38%。
Comments?
There isn't too much we can dispute or confirm without spending a day crunching numbers, and the best advice we can ever give is to do exactly what you've done, which is to weigh the options and not rush into a decision. A few things stand out that may be worth you re-investigating -
I'm not sure that investing in 5K for both the basement and attic combined is taking full advantage of potential heat savings. It depends on how big your house is, how airtight it is and how well it is currently insulated.
One example - If it was built in 2004 I'm not certain you'd have any insulation at all under the baseme floor, so just a DIY floor insulation project with cheap flooring on top will eat up at least 5K in materials alone I imagine even for a small basement.
不要指望通过增加5K的保温材料来收回5K的地热安装成本。系统大小没有提供那么多的选项,你可以增加这么小的增量。
I think your best bet it as you suggest, start with an energy audit. It's impossible to solve an equation accurately with a bunch of variables and you currently have a lot of those.
It's good that you have a base of ideas already, but wait till you energy advisor tells you where you are best to insulate and how much to add, and you may find that rather than dropping 5K on insulating and 30-35K on geothermal, you may be best to install 20K on insulation and skip the geothermal altogether. Just food for thought.
以上每一种情况都假设采用管道强制空气气体(或石油)进行成本比较。Here's mine, which starts from a different place:
- built 1972, electricity was cheap, electric baseboard heat, 1800 sq ft, high insulation levels (brand new complete attic insulation in 2015 - closed-cell spray foam and blown to R70).
- two capped unused fireplaces, no ductwork, no A/C or airhandling system, electric hot water, wide open-concept side-split, large-ish lot (100x100), across the road from a mid-sized lake in central Ontario
- currently pay about $7,000/yr in electricity after rebates, has been as high as $9,000+
Note that I will not consider switching to a combustion-based fossil fuel system.
考虑到我没有任何管道或空气处理系统,我试图确定的是成本与节约可能是什么。
Can anyone offer insight?
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供电!怎么样?为什么不利用同样的地热来供热,并成为一种能源呢?你可以用这些热量来驱动涡轮机,为空调发电。???
How much to instal the geothermal unit and what is the house sq.footage? How much of a provincial rebate ?
我不会评论你在文章中列出的系统类型,因为它们不是我想要的类型。我正在考虑田纳西州的土地,那里的地面温度是19-20摄氏度,这就不需要热泵,可以只使用强制液体或我喜欢的强制空气系统。无需担心流体泄漏和压力损失,一个简单的强制空气系统将被设计为带孔的,因为它是一个开环。空气被推入三根直径约30厘米的黑色塑料排水管道(强制通风),管道底部有抽水孔,周围有最小的砾石层,以消除系统中使用的环境空气中的湿度凝结。这些管道从一条长约100米的沟槽中流出,然后返回到同样的区域,空气也从管道的另一端被抽出(引风),然后进入通风系统。考虑到我将自己做建设,并打算要么一个土袋或土护堤结构,这将是极其便宜的,在电力消耗和维护的要求少得多。如果风扇坏了,就换一个,不会花很多钱。是的,我会破坏土壤,但林地和草地类型的环境恢复很快,地热完全不适合湿地的位置。为什么会有人在湿地上建造呢?抛开你可能有的环境问题不谈,这个工程就是个噩梦。